2022 EHF EURO (4-20 November)

Referees nominated for Women's EHF EURO 2022

   Ana Vranes / Marlis Wenninger (AUT)
   Tatjana Prastalo / Vesna Balvan (BIH)
   Igor Covalciuc /Alexei Covalciuc (MDA)
   Javier Alvarez Mata / Yon Bustamante Lopez (ESP)
   Maike Merz / Tanja Kuttler (GER)
   Eskil Braseth / Leif Andre Sundet (NOR)
   Ismailj Metalari / Nenad Nikolovski (MKD)
   Jelena Vujacic / Andjelina Kazanegra (MNE)
   Marta Sa / Vania Sa (POR)
   Ozren Backovic / Mirko Palackovic (SLO)
   Vanja Antic / Jelena Jakovljevic (SRB)
   Marina Duplii / Olena Pobedrina (UKR)

Many Romanian players willing to miss tournament over vaccine

We Love Sport writes that almost half of Romania's 35-player roster is unavailable. World-class pivot Crina Pintea also has hip problems and could miss the competition. Crina Pintea, Nicoleta Dincă and Alexandra Severin became the last unavailable, but after several players refused vaccination.

„In addition to Laslo, Bucur, Miticuș, Zamfirescu with medical problems, other players are added to complete the list of unavailability.

It is true that we faced a complicated situation in the formation of the team, considering that one of the mandatory conditions for participation in this year's European Championship is that each player has the complete vaccination schedule (booster). Being conditioned by this rule, we requested a record that includes the eligibility of the players from the expanded group of 35. Unfortunately, a number of players do not meet this participation criterion and did not agree to be vaccinated, a decision that represents a right of each one separately, which is related to health and not to the sports part.”

https://wesport.ro/stiri/we-love-handball-supravietuirea-romania-abia-strange-jucatoare-de-un-lot-pentru-a-merge-la-europene-23121

In my opinion, mandatory vaccination is no longer useful. I do not comment further. Vaccinated people have been shown to be 'protected'. They come into contact with unvaccinated people anyway.

EHF, don't destroy the sport! Let's have a competition in full format again, with the exception of the war-mongers.

It's sad that the players will be missing, but I expect the EHF to resolve it at least at the next major tournament. Otherwise, we will have no chance of performance. Already 2 tournaments. Now it's already full politics.

Please use Google Translator!

https://www.gsp.ro/sporturi/handbal/scandal-euro-handbal-feminin-germania-spania-679652.html

Cheaters. This has nothing to do with sports, but something like that happened before in other sports as well. For the most of us it's just about sportsmanship, but for some it's mostly about money. Disgusting behavior.

They should change the rules. The way that the current rules are encourages this. If you have a chance to take 2 points instead of 0 to the next round then you go for the 2 points. If a team goes to main round without points they most likely won't make it to semifinals. Spain needs those 2 points and the EHF makes it so this can happen

It's like saying someone stole the money just because it was on the table. I strongly disagree with your opinion. A cheater is just a cheater and that's that.

Agree to disagree I see it more as taxavoidance and taxevasion. In the Netherlands one is scummy but legal and the other is illegal. But I understand you point, it was pretty scummy

Edit: mixup on the English terms for tax things

Are we really going to pretend other national teams wouldn’t do this?
Spain was just stupid for making it too obvious.

@swart Imagine Romania in this situation. Now tell me you would’ve wanted them to go to MR with 0 points? If you say yes i don’t believe you.

Normal decision by Spain, but stupid to make it so obvious.

John wrote:@swart Imagine Romania in this situation. Now tell me you would’ve wanted them to go to MR with 0 points? If you say yes i don’t believe you.

Remember that Romania and the Netherlands could have done it at a recent tournament and they didn't fix the match.

Dutchfan wrote:They should change the rules. The way that the current rules are encourages this. If you have a chance to take 2 points instead of 0 to the next round then you go for the 2 points. If a team goes to main round without points they most likely won't make it to semifinals. Spain needs those 2 points and the EHF makes it so this can happen

UEFA Euro 2004: Sweden-Denmark
EHF Euro 2022: Spain-Germany

This was a disgrace. Until they change the rules, it's just a lack of fair play. With Poland affected.

John wrote:@swart Imagine Romania in this situation. Now tell me you would’ve wanted them to go to MR with 0 points? If you say yes i don’t believe you.

I'd rather see them out than fixing games. Now I can not speak on behalf of the players and I wouldn't know the outcome. I just hope they wouldn't fix the game.

How was it a game fixing? It would have been far better for Germany to win the game and advance with 2 points instead of zero. You are seeing evil where there aren't any.

I don't mean they fixed it BEFORE the game. But under the circumstances they went for it. No need to go further with this, I have my opinion and you have your's and I am fine with that.

Gojira wrote:How was it a game fixing? It would have been far better for Germany to win the game and advance with 2 points instead of zero. You are seeing evil where there aren't any.

Did you even see the ending? Please watch the last 2 and a half minutes.

Video https://www.digisport.ro/handbal/pragmatismul-a-aruncat-fair-play-ul-la-gunoi-spania-a-lasat-germania-sa-i-dea-gol-si-chiar-s-a-bucurat-2029277

Pragmatism threw fair play into the trash. Spain let Germany score and even enjoyed it!, says Digi Sport.

"In short, Spain was interested in sending home Poland and not Germany, because that's how they reached the Main Group with two points. When qualifying, the scores with the other two qualified teams are taken into account, and Poland had defeated Spain!

With the maths done perfectly, Spain at one point threw the ball out for Germany to attack again and score to reduce the deficit further, which it did.

The "fixed match" was so obvious that a Spanish player raised her arms in the air in joy that she scored. It can be seen at minute 59:28.

Then, in the last 30 seconds, Spain didn't even attack the opposing goal. A time out was also requested, in which, probably, if there was someone who did not know that the team should NOT score, they were informed!"

Gazeta Sporturilor wrote Huge scandal at Euro 2022, after the embarrassing scenes with Romania's opponents » They missed on purpose, then celebrated the opponents' goal! "The actions that followed are considered defiant by the Poles. In the last minute, Spain got possession of the ball and the players started looking at each other. They faked an offensive move, shot wide, then simply waited for to get a goal. Smits broke through the Iberian defense unhindered and scored the goal that qualified both teams."





Hotnews says Handball: Moment without fair play at the European Championship - Spain and Germany, fixed match for the elimination of Poland.

https://sport.hotnews.ro/stiri-alte_sporturi-25895155-handbal-moment-lipsit-fair-play-campionatul-european-spania-germania-blat-pentru-eliminarea-poloniei.htm

These are all major and serious publications.

swarthofole was using the term "game fixing". But all your proofs don't have anything to do with "game fixing". Match fixing usually refers to betting scandals and to arrangements between players, refs or officials that were done long before the game. But all this is not the case here. This is "just" unsportsmanlike behavior by Spain. No handball fan does like this behavior, but it all happened in accordance with the official EHF handball rules.

And I'm also pretty sure that the spanish coach had a conversation with Arcosh after game to tell her to please never ever celebrate an opponents goal on the field again.

By the way, there is one real scandal in the ECh: the extremely low level of refereeing. I may even say sometimes it borders on cheating.

GerHbol wrote:swarthofole was using the term "game fixing". But all your proofs don't have anything to do with "game fixing". Match fixing usually refers to betting scandals and to arrangements between players, refs or officials that were done long before the game. But all this is not the case here. This is "just" unsportsmanlike behavior by Spain. No handball fan does like this behavior, but it all happened in accordance with the official EHF handball rules.

And I'm also pretty sure that the spanish coach had a conversation with Arcosh after game to tell her to please never ever celebrate an opponents goal on the field again.

Even the international media uses the word match fixing. At least the Spanish participated in this mess. If I were EHF, I would not only take measures such as suspension, but I would also call Europol. As UEFA had to do in 2004, only that several UEFA and FIFA bosses now have criminal problems.

Why is match fixing accepted only in the case of bets and we do not criminalise it when it comes to any manipulation of the result? And for sports purposes!

match-fixing
noun
(in sport) the action or practice of dishonestly determining the outcome of a match before it is played.

Entirely played...

I am extremely surprised that this competition is perhaps treated as smaller by the major western sports newspapers. If others did it, much more would be written.

In Spain, responded to suspicions of a fixed match at the handball European Championship
Scandal for the end of the first part of the EP: “This is shocking. If this is true…”

Now probably there's more in local languages. I know that NRK.no covered the subject.

Spain should only be punished for being idiots, nothing else. Instead of pretending, playing the attack until passive, and then make a turnover and pretend to be shocked by referee’s decision.. or shoot close to the goal and not like Gutierez did.
I repeat every NT would do this, and all of you are liars if you say you would like your team to finish last and not go to the MR.
Spain won, they deserved to win, nothing was fixed. There aren’t and there should’t be rules for calculations of what is better for some team. And those things are not something you can prove.

Guys, calm down, it was never my intention to turn this absolutely nonsense ending into a real scandal on this forum. But @John, calling me a liar because of something I feel, I relate to or because of my personal beliefs or values is even more of a nonsense than pretending nothing happened during the last minutes of that game. I'd like to think there's still decent people in the world who care more about honesty than making a win an absolute goal. Sportsmanship comes first in my mind, but I agree others are in for different reasons (most of them for money and glory).

Everyone is allowed to their own opinion. Disagreeing is allowed. Just don't make it personal and keep it friendly

To make the Dutch changes to get to the semis even lower, Dulfer has been suspended for one match https://www.handbalinside.nl/oranje-zonder-dulfer-tegen-spanje/

Based on what Spain showed so far i think you won’t miss her that much.. i may be wrong, but let’s wait and see